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[alicornucopia]

In Paraasilan, Esmaar, a pair of roommates are about to break a rule that, compared to the one about running in the corridors or even the one about unlicensed teleportation, is there for a good reason.

In unison, they complete their shared spell.

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with Adarin (Aestrix)

with Ekador (kappa)

with Brilliance (kappa)

with the admin (kappa)

with Teah (kappa)

with Katran (lambda)

with Hall (kappa)

with Joy (kappa)

with Kalinda (Christy Hotwater)

Comments

[alicornucopia]

"If it's the same in every respect it'll work just fine. If you changed something - there are some series of spells that have the same incantation but different power pulls for variant effects, like teleporting with assorted numbers of passengers is all the same wording but different power pull and intention."

[cardistry]

"Huh. Weird. If I wanted to teleport with a passenger I'd just - include them, but teleportation isn't even an incanted spell for me."

[alicornucopia]

"Anyway. Do those diagrams you make have to be flat?"

[cardistry]

"Yeah. The ones I do come in one shape and it's the shape you saw, but even the other shapes diagrams could possibly be are all flat shapes. The details of that one shape are kind of - attached to me and the way I do magic, a little bit like how mana colours are attached to casters and incantations are attached to spells. I could probably figure out how to cast spells with a differently shaped diagram, or change the shape of mine, but it's basically cosmetic and I like the look of mine just fine so I don't care enough to try."

[alicornucopia]

"And they can only do things if you make them as part of casting a spell, you can't just make a diagram to be a proxy for your own Devicehood to let people interact with stuff without having their own instance of your kind of magic?"

[cardistry]

"Yeah, no, doesn't work that way. The closest I could get to a 'proxy for my Devicehood' would be making an independent Device. Which would still just be... an independent Device."

[alicornucopia]

"So you've got incantations, which index differently and aren't present in every spell and sometimes get long and descriptive but are otherwise basically incantations, and you've got mana, which is roughly like spell power. What do you do with the mana? In the case of wizards we pull power 'through' our CCs and the big mystery is what the heck a CC is that it can have stuff pulled through it just so, is there an equivalent mystery for you or do you know the details of the procedure?"

[cardistry]

"I get a pretty direct sense of what happens, but there's not that much to it. I generate mana, I can put it into spells and do things with it, I can - " he waves a hand and makes a spray of mana bubbles " - just throw it around to no particular effect."

[alicornucopia]

"So you put it into spells - could you put it into anything else? Store it, maybe? Wizard power is storeable but there's never a reason to bother. And where does mana go after you've thrown it around or used it up?"

[cardistry]

"It just - dissipates," he says. "Hmm, I've never tried storing it. The question's if there'd be any... ooh, huh. Okay: I've got enough raw power that for most applications I can think of, there's no point in hauling extra mana around to power spells, I'm not gonna run out. But there's no reason it shouldn't be possible to store a bunch of mana in some kind of - accessory, to give a Device a power boost if they're running low or want to cast something above their base level. I don't know how you'd do the same thing for a mage; the trouble is, with a Device you can design and install a system to take in the extra mana, with a mage you can't really do that. But it might be possible, who knows."

[alicornucopia]

"What does dissipated mana do? Cease to exist? Diffuse to sufficient rarification that it's unusable, but continue to exist?"

[cardistry]

"That's a good question, actually... I think it's the second thing, but I'm not sure. If it is the second thing, that explains why I keep being so sure your world doesn't have my kind of magic - if I'm subconsciously detecting background mana levels and there just isn't any. Actually, I'm gonna check that."

He gets his thoughtful look for half a second, then nods. "Yeah. I have a background mana sensor and everything it's been picking up in this universe is mine."

[alicornucopia]

"Well, you keep leaking; could you make something that charged up with stray or you-donated mana and then deployed it when handled in specified ways?"

[cardistry]

"Mmmmmnot sure. I think I could come up with a spell that soaked up fresh background mana, but it'd have to be cast on the spot... and I think old background mana might just not be accessible that way. Probably easier to just charge a mana battery directly, so your magic thingy doesn't depend on how many big spells have been cast nearby in the last day or so. And then I still have the problem of figuring out how to design a magical object to work without a magical interface."

[alicornucopia]

"Fair enough. There's ways other than button pressing - the lights, for example," he gestures at the glowing ceiling, "operate by intentionality, not by someone poking something."

[cardistry]

"That might be harder. I don't know any way for magic to interface with the thoughts of somebody who's not magic. At least I already know it can manipulate and analyze physical objects."

[alicornucopia]

"So much for that idea." Kaylo twists the pieces of the picture crystal; the picture winks out and he pockets it. He ushers the books all back whence they came.

[cardistry]

"This is fun," Brilliance says cheerfully. "I think I might design that external mana storage system just for the hell of it."

[alicornucopia]

"And then when you've filled up ice cream and olives and toast and whatnot you can have someplace to put it even if you haven't been casting? Unless I misunderstand how you currently handle storage."

[cardistry]

"The way I currently handle storage... there's sort of an upper limit on how much mana I can carry at once, but it's more that when I get above a certain point I don't generate it so fast. I don't actually know if I'll just stop converting mana if I keep eating ice cream while I'm at capacity, or if it'll overflow and go into background immediately, or what."

[alicornucopia]

"You are enamored enough of ice cream that I fully expect you to find out."

[cardistry]

He giggles.

[alicornucopia]

"I'm out of avenues for questioning for the moment, I'm going to work on the analysis so I can squint directly at your workings and see if that inspires anything."

[cardistry]

"Have fun!"