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[alicornucopia]

In Paraasilan, Esmaar, a pair of roommates are about to break a rule that, compared to the one about running in the corridors or even the one about unlicensed teleportation, is there for a good reason.

In unison, they complete their shared spell.

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with Adarin (Aestrix)

with Ekador (kappa)

with Brilliance (kappa)

with the admin (kappa)

with Teah (kappa)

with Katran (lambda)

with Hall (kappa)

with Joy (kappa)

with Kalinda (Christy Hotwater)

Comments

[aeskhyne]

"Yeah, no, not a chance. But if you sorted them by something and told me what it was, and it was a meaning thing and not 'took more or less than 40 letters to write down in Leraal', I could probably aim for them pretty well. Better if it was something I was familiar with. Maybe not to the point of getting the one whole list before the other whole list, but categories are just squishy like that sometimes."

[alicornucopia]

"What if I was sorting by whether I personally approved of it or something, what would that count as?"

[aeskhyne]

A tick goes by with no answer, except for the list updating twice.

Then: "I'd have to know you better, I think. Figure out what kinds of things you approved of. And I can't even tell ahead what I'm going to approve of every single time, so I wouldn't be perfect at it. I could still make good guesses, though."

[alicornucopia]

"So you would be making an independent evaluation of what I'd be likely to approve of, not referring to my actual approval from my head or my list or whatever. How many prayers can you hold onto at once?"

[aeskhyne]

"One at a time."

[alicornucopia]

"Okay. Define 'relevant'?"

[aeskhyne]

"I'm not sure there's a definition that isn't circular. Relevant is relevant if I feel like it's relevant at the time. I'm not a hundred percent consistent about it, so the results aren't a hundred percent consistent either. But, say, I don't have to be granting a prayer as long as I'm responding to it - the apple tree of no was still a response, and I can get way bigger than the original scope as long as I'm still basically on topic - like I did with shrens and hearers and dementia."

[alicornucopia]

"Why an apple tree?"

[aeskhyne]

"Her favourite food is applesauce and she's Aleist. When I do a nice no I do a nice no. They're more widely understood back home, weight of history and all, but I figure people here will catch on eventually too."

[alicornucopia]

"But would it have been irrelevant to send, say, the entire city of Peiza a rainstorm with thunder that happened to say 'no' in the pattern of the booms in pulsecode?"

[aeskhyne]

"Nah. I could've if I'd felt like being that flashy and obscure."

[alicornucopia]

"And you had access to memories which could theoretically have included incidental information about Peiza needing rain?"

[aeskhyne]

"Yeah. And I can read the history of the world if I want, find out things like that - and here's what I mean about inconsistent relevance: Peiza did need rain, I just looked it up, and then I gave it some, because it was funny that it did with you saying that and I was still holding onto the prayer for our conversation. That's the kind of weird edge case I couldn't plan for or do on purpose if I tried. You were just making it up, right, you didn't actually know one way or the other?"

[alicornucopia]

"I had no idea," confirms Kaylo, reading the updates to the list.

[aeskhyne]

"Learning anything interesting?"

[alicornucopia]

"Maybe. How long can you hold onto a prayer? What if someone literally prayed for you to be able to do whatever you want?"

[aeskhyne]

"As long as I want, I guess, I haven't tried - and I have to know what I'm doing to grant a prayer. If I had any bright ideas, that would let me try 'em out, but I don't."

[alicornucopia]

"What if somebody prayed for you to be able to hold onto more than one at once?"

[aeskhyne]

"I don't think anybody's ever tried, but it wouldn't make sense for it to work. Same reason as the other thing - I can only do stuff that's relevant to the prayer I'm holding onto, but holding onto a prayer doesn't change how good I am at what it's asking for. You can give it a shot if you want, just to see."

[alicornucopia]

"Maybe. So in general people can't pray for you to be able to alter your own abilities, your status as a prayer-granter doesn't recurse?"

[aeskhyne]

"Yeah. I have stuff I can do, and what prayer I'm holding onto changes which of the stuff I can do right then, but not what stuff. If I can alter my own abilities, it's something I'll have to figure out how to do; just having somebody ask for it won't help with that."

[alicornucopia]

"Can people pray on each others' behalves? Wanting so-and-so to get whatever they want without being specific in the prayer about what that is?"

[aeskhyne]

"Yeah, I guess. I'd just have to figure out what so-and-so wanted, because if they weren't the one praying I wouldn't be 'hearing' it directly."

[alicornucopia]

"But the contents of what they want would fall under the scope of the relevance of the prayer."

[aeskhyne]

"Yeah. And so would, say, asking them what it was."